Elon James White, who founded the Web series "This Week in Blackness," and Crystal Wright, who created the blog Conservative Black Chick, discuss dueling narratives about race and crime in the aftermath of the controversial grand jury decision not to indict Darren Wilson in the death of Michael Brown.
This was host Brian Stelter's introduction to the segment:
"A national conversation on race." How many times have you heard that phrase?
Can I be really honest here? The truth is we're not having "a" national conversation on race. We're having two very different conversations, and there's barely any overlap.
Tell me if you agree with me about this: there is a conversation, mainly among whites, that mostly tiptoes around race, and sometimes denies race as a factor.
Then there's a totally separate conversation, mainly among people of color, that argues many white people just don't get it - just don't, or can't or won't understand the pervasive, corrosive, devastating effects of racial bias.
These conversations - they happen through the media. So I'm tempted to call this White News/Black News instead of our usual segment Red News/Blue News. Because one of the reasons why we're having two different conversations is that we're hearing two different stories.
One story is very specific: it's about Michael Brown and Darren Wilson. But the other story is about an epidemic of police violence.
This story, this is the one that many African Americans have absorbed through a mix of mainstream and social media. This is a picture that's viral online, it's of dozens of unarmed men killed by police. Dozens of Michael Browns. And there are unarmed women as well.
Many whites don't know all their names. I don't know all their names. Many African-Americans do know their names.
So, two different conversations based on two different narratives.